Brief addendum: That experience sticks in my head because of how starkly the developer remarked like "OH! I get it. Huh. I've heard these terms and arguments before. And like I was listening for 45 minutes to you, but like suddenly it finally makes sense. Crazy that it took so long to explain. I was just sorting hearing words but it didn't click. But I get now, thanks. Interesting to think about…" I didn't get to find out if it ever went beyond that moment and she thought about it any further afterwards though.